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		<title>By: Madhana</title>
		<link>http://blogs.thestateonline.net/familyties/2008/09/22/real-men-todd-palin-and-me/comment-page-1/#comment-1878</link>
		<dc:creator>Madhana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 04:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks alot for the great read.</description>
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		<title>By: Who&#8217;s tired of homework already?</title>
		<link>http://blogs.thestateonline.net/familyties/2008/09/22/real-men-todd-palin-and-me/comment-page-1/#comment-1877</link>
		<dc:creator>Who&#8217;s tired of homework already?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 03:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DGB</title>
		<link>http://blogs.thestateonline.net/familyties/2008/09/22/real-men-todd-palin-and-me/comment-page-1/#comment-1867</link>
		<dc:creator>DGB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Palin family&#039;s decisions are none of my business, and I trust they&#039;ve made the choices that thay believe are best for their children. However, I would like to point out that regardless of whether Todd Palin is a stay-at-home dad who is fully capable of caring for the family, if his wife is elected vice president, this family - including both mother and father - will have more obligations and demands on their time than the typical suburban family. And it&#039;s tough enough for families who aren&#039;t involved in the government of one of the most powerful nations in the world.

I agree that many men are supportive and involved fathers who have made career decisions based on what is best for their family. If you are one of these fathers, I applaud you. But despite progress in this area, the division of labor for home and family is far from equal. I have a great husband who is a wonderful father and who shares in family and household responsibilities. I&#039;m sure he believes he&#039;s carrying an equal amount of the load, but he is not. This is a common misconception for fathers - judging from conversations I have with friends and family. If one parent does not work outside the home, you would expect that parent - mom or dad - to carry most of the load for family and home responsibilities. However, an unequal division of labor continues when both parents work outside the home (http://www.nsf.gov/discoveries/disc_summ.jsp?cntn_id=111458).

For men who see themselves as helping out with the children and home, that&#039;s where the problem lies. They still see it as &quot;helping&quot; the wife/mother out, not as being equally responsible for making sure the family and home run smoothly.

Here&#039;s a litmus test for how much of the load you carry for home and family:
1) Do you know what you&#039;re having for supper tonight? Who will cook it? Who planned the menu? Who did the grocery shopping?
2) Do you know when to pick up the items from your daughter&#039;s soccer team fund-raiser? If so, is it because you wrote the date on your calendar when you got the e-mail from the coach or because the mother of your children reminded you of the date and asked if you had time to make the pick-up?
3) When is the last time you visited your child&#039;s school? called or e-mailed a teacher? bought school supplies?
4) Are your child&#039;s vaccinations up to date? What is her doctor&#039;s name?
5) When is the last time you cleaned the shower? Was it because you noticed it needed cleaning and took responsibility for doing it yourself? Or was it because your wife asked you do it?

You get the picture.

I have the greatest respect for caring and involved husbands and fathers, so my intention is not to criticize but merely to say that you might want to offer to make dinner tonight - without being asked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Palin family&#8217;s decisions are none of my business, and I trust they&#8217;ve made the choices that thay believe are best for their children. However, I would like to point out that regardless of whether Todd Palin is a stay-at-home dad who is fully capable of caring for the family, if his wife is elected vice president, this family &#8211; including both mother and father &#8211; will have more obligations and demands on their time than the typical suburban family. And it&#8217;s tough enough for families who aren&#8217;t involved in the government of one of the most powerful nations in the world.</p>
<p>I agree that many men are supportive and involved fathers who have made career decisions based on what is best for their family. If you are one of these fathers, I applaud you. But despite progress in this area, the division of labor for home and family is far from equal. I have a great husband who is a wonderful father and who shares in family and household responsibilities. I&#8217;m sure he believes he&#8217;s carrying an equal amount of the load, but he is not. This is a common misconception for fathers &#8211; judging from conversations I have with friends and family. If one parent does not work outside the home, you would expect that parent &#8211; mom or dad &#8211; to carry most of the load for family and home responsibilities. However, an unequal division of labor continues when both parents work outside the home (<a href="http://www.nsf.gov/discoveries/disc_summ.jsp?cntn_id=111458" rel="nofollow">http://www.nsf.gov/discoveries/disc_summ.jsp?cntn_id=111458</a>).</p>
<p>For men who see themselves as helping out with the children and home, that&#8217;s where the problem lies. They still see it as &#8220;helping&#8221; the wife/mother out, not as being equally responsible for making sure the family and home run smoothly.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a litmus test for how much of the load you carry for home and family:<br />
1) Do you know what you&#8217;re having for supper tonight? Who will cook it? Who planned the menu? Who did the grocery shopping?<br />
2) Do you know when to pick up the items from your daughter&#8217;s soccer team fund-raiser? If so, is it because you wrote the date on your calendar when you got the e-mail from the coach or because the mother of your children reminded you of the date and asked if you had time to make the pick-up?<br />
3) When is the last time you visited your child&#8217;s school? called or e-mailed a teacher? bought school supplies?<br />
4) Are your child&#8217;s vaccinations up to date? What is her doctor&#8217;s name?<br />
5) When is the last time you cleaned the shower? Was it because you noticed it needed cleaning and took responsibility for doing it yourself? Or was it because your wife asked you do it?</p>
<p>You get the picture.</p>
<p>I have the greatest respect for caring and involved husbands and fathers, so my intention is not to criticize but merely to say that you might want to offer to make dinner tonight &#8211; without being asked.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Baggett</title>
		<link>http://blogs.thestateonline.net/familyties/2008/09/22/real-men-todd-palin-and-me/comment-page-1/#comment-1876</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Baggett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Renee read my article as I intended. Todd Palin was just a way to open the discussion.  I was making the point that for some families at particular times in life it makes more sense for Dad to cut back or, even, stay home full-time.  My concern is that in too many families, parents put their self-fulfillment through their careers ahead of responsibilities to their children.  The idea of sacrifice, or a little postponement, of personal goals is never considered.  But love often requires some sacrifice.  And granted, making the case with the Palins may not have been the best choice. The daughter&#039;s pregnancy may be partially due to lack of supervision. I imagine they have been a little distracted.  Still I&#039;m not going to pass judgment on them. Parents only have so much control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Renee read my article as I intended. Todd Palin was just a way to open the discussion.  I was making the point that for some families at particular times in life it makes more sense for Dad to cut back or, even, stay home full-time.  My concern is that in too many families, parents put their self-fulfillment through their careers ahead of responsibilities to their children.  The idea of sacrifice, or a little postponement, of personal goals is never considered.  But love often requires some sacrifice.  And granted, making the case with the Palins may not have been the best choice. The daughter&#8217;s pregnancy may be partially due to lack of supervision. I imagine they have been a little distracted.  Still I&#8217;m not going to pass judgment on them. Parents only have so much control.</p>
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		<title>By: Lyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea well to all of you who have posted today lets stop and look at how many fingers point back at you when you are accusing them. I also highly doubt that when you reply to me you are speaking the truth. It starts in the home but as the children venture into the real world they make there own decisions. You can not blmae the Palin childrens behavior on the parents in anyway, especially here in America..

Lay off the kids of the Palin family remember they can hear and watch what you say and they can also take your direct words to heart, maybe the state of Alaska made them who they are by accusing them just as all of you are.. Do not blame the parents, blame the media and blame yourself for how they have turned out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea well to all of you who have posted today lets stop and look at how many fingers point back at you when you are accusing them. I also highly doubt that when you reply to me you are speaking the truth. It starts in the home but as the children venture into the real world they make there own decisions. You can not blmae the Palin childrens behavior on the parents in anyway, especially here in America..</p>
<p>Lay off the kids of the Palin family remember they can hear and watch what you say and they can also take your direct words to heart, maybe the state of Alaska made them who they are by accusing them just as all of you are.. Do not blame the parents, blame the media and blame yourself for how they have turned out.</p>
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		<title>By: James Clements</title>
		<link>http://blogs.thestateonline.net/familyties/2008/09/22/real-men-todd-palin-and-me/comment-page-1/#comment-1874</link>
		<dc:creator>James Clements</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry no matter which way you split it. The republican choice for VP is not a &quot;good&quot; mother. If you want to spout about how special family your is. And how much you have sacrificed then first make sure that you are really doing what you preach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry no matter which way you split it. The republican choice for VP is not a &#8220;good&#8221; mother. If you want to spout about how special family your is. And how much you have sacrificed then first make sure that you are really doing what you preach.</p>
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		<title>By: Courtney</title>
		<link>http://blogs.thestateonline.net/familyties/2008/09/22/real-men-todd-palin-and-me/comment-page-1/#comment-1873</link>
		<dc:creator>Courtney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think its admirable of a man who is secure in letting his wife be the breadwinner as well as one who is actively involved in his children&#039;s lives. What&#039;s wrong with that?
BTW, I am NOT a Palin fan in the least. But I am a fan of fathers who provide emotional support and place thier families first. Its the ultimate sacrifice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think its admirable of a man who is secure in letting his wife be the breadwinner as well as one who is actively involved in his children&#8217;s lives. What&#8217;s wrong with that?<br />
BTW, I am NOT a Palin fan in the least. But I am a fan of fathers who provide emotional support and place thier families first. Its the ultimate sacrifice.</p>
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		<title>By: Conner</title>
		<link>http://blogs.thestateonline.net/familyties/2008/09/22/real-men-todd-palin-and-me/comment-page-1/#comment-1872</link>
		<dc:creator>Conner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah and Todd Palin kind of scare me. It&#039;s quite obvious to me that they are totally fake when it comes to &quot;family&quot;.I feel sorry for the kids. They are the ones who are suffering from the parent&#039;s overwhelming political ambitions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah and Todd Palin kind of scare me. It&#8217;s quite obvious to me that they are totally fake when it comes to &#8220;family&#8221;.I feel sorry for the kids. They are the ones who are suffering from the parent&#8217;s overwhelming political ambitions.</p>
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		<title>By: Renee</title>
		<link>http://blogs.thestateonline.net/familyties/2008/09/22/real-men-todd-palin-and-me/comment-page-1/#comment-1871</link>
		<dc:creator>Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps if we could stop labeling each other and making inflammatory statements without any corroboration, we could have a discussion on the issue of balancing work and family, which is what the author asked. It seems to me that he is writing about his personal experience and how he has tried to find the right path for him and his family. Todd Palin was simply a way to open that discussion. Stereotyping people as liberal or conservative, Republican or Democrat is easy. To look beyond labels and actually think and exchange ideas is a bit harder but more worthwhile in the long run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps if we could stop labeling each other and making inflammatory statements without any corroboration, we could have a discussion on the issue of balancing work and family, which is what the author asked. It seems to me that he is writing about his personal experience and how he has tried to find the right path for him and his family. Todd Palin was simply a way to open that discussion. Stereotyping people as liberal or conservative, Republican or Democrat is easy. To look beyond labels and actually think and exchange ideas is a bit harder but more worthwhile in the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://blogs.thestateonline.net/familyties/2008/09/22/real-men-todd-palin-and-me/comment-page-1/#comment-1870</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin Federline was also given the &quot;real man&quot; tag for being such a great dad by some ignorant writer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin Federline was also given the &#8220;real man&#8221; tag for being such a great dad by some ignorant writer.</p>
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